ROY CULLEN (Liberal - Ontario): I think the Prime Minister decided that he
preferred Sue Barnes over me, and I don't know why.
OLIVER: Perhaps this is why he lost the powerful chairmanship of the Commons
Finance Committee.
CULLEN: I am pretty close to Paul Martin. Maybe that made the difference.
OLIVER: One Liberal insider described the atmosphere in the Liberal Caucus
and Cabinet as toxic. At Caucus tomorrow, a number of Martin supporters are
expected to line up and attack Allan Rock who's expected to respond in kind.
Lloyd.
ROBERTSON: So Craig, why would the Prime Minister be asserting himself,
apparently from overseas, into the business of appointments to Parliamentary
committees?
OLIVER: Well, it's a question of protecting his position. Some supporters of
Chretien note that at the review a year from now of his leadership, Paul Martin
will control the high ground in the party and does and will try to bring him
down at that review. By the way, in fairness to him, Paul Martin has
consistently denied he has any intention of doing that and there is no evidence
of that.
ROBERTSON: But the potential can be there for a coup d'etat.
OLIVER: Unlikely, but it could.
ROBERTSON: Now the matter of Alfonso Gagliano who was moved because of
patronage allegations by the Prime Minister as Ambassador to Denmark, he seems
to be in the middle of a controversy at the moment too.
OLIVER: Well, the Commons committee has voted to bring him back and face the
bar of the committee and answer for himself and by the way, a number of Liberal
supporters in the committee voted to do that. To bring back their own disgraced
Cabinet Minister and embarrass their own government. I mean, these days, the
Liberals seem to be providing their own opposition internally.
ROBERTSON: Now, it's not unprecedented to call these people to explain
themselves is it, but it is less likely government members would be calling
their own member back.
OLIVER: Very unlikely, and in the context of what's going on these days I
would say even extraordinary.
ROBERTSON: Thanks very much Craig.
OLIVER: Goodnight Lloyd.
ROBERTSON: Goodnight.